A National Anthem for England?

Does England need its own National Anthem? A question that is guaranteed to excite the passions of many English nationalists!

The Welsh have the powerful and emotive ‘Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau’!

The Scots have the very ‘catchy’ ‘Flower of Scotland!

The English have? God Save the Queen?

Well no actually, God save the Queen was the British, and is now the UK national anthem.

These days the place where you will usually hear national anthems is at sporting matches, here Welsh and Scottish supporters know what they are going to be singing, whereas English supporters need to keep a notebook to hand. Various sporting bodies play different anthems. For example.

At present, the following anthems are used:

At the Commonwealth Games, Team England has used “Jerusalem” as the victory anthem from 2010 onwards. The Commonwealth Games Council for England conducted a poll of members of the public which decided the anthem for the 2010 Commonwealth Games. The three options were “God Save The Queen”, “Jerusalem” and “Land of Hope and Glory”. Jerusalem was the clear winner with 52% of the vote.

At international football matches, England uses “God Save the Queen” as the national anthem.

At international rugby union matches, England uses “God Save the Queen” as the national anthem whilst “Land of Hope and Glory “is the anthem played prior to kick off. Another song, ‘A world in Union’, which uses the tune to ‘I vow to thee my Country’, is also associated with these matches.

At international rugby league matches, England uses “God Save the Queen” as the national anthem.

At international test cricket matches, England has, since 2003, used “Jerusalem” as its entrance anthem.

At international lacrosse matches, the England Men’s team uses “God Save The Queen” and the Women’s team uses “Jerusalem” as the national anthems.

In recent years both Greg Mulholland, the Lib’ Dem’ MP for Leeds North West and   Dan Kawczynski, Con’ MP for Shrewsbury & Atcham have both tabled and supported Early Day Motions in Parliament to get agreement on a National anthem for England. With very little effect.

There have also been calls for a competition to compose a specially written anthem.

There is no lack of talent out there and some very good songs have been written about England.

Ralph McTell wrote ‘England’.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiOnmhMw9XE

Steve Knightly wrote ‘Roots’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5h4PFBuzvw

Listen, enjoy, and debate with people of England.

Elected representatives of English Nationalist Parties! (Part 1)

Current councillors etc.

English Democratic Party

Elected Mayor.

Peter Davies, elected as Mayor of Doncaster in June 2009.

His election was unexpected, as he himself admitted. His was the first electoral breakthrough, apart from Parish level, for the EDP in their eleven year history. He has proved to be a controversial figure in Doncaster, with no EDP members on the council his cabinet is made up of Tory and independent councillors with the majority Labour members excluded. One effect of his unexpected election was that his manifesto contained a number of things that had not been thought through and therefore he has had to admit that they can’t be delivered.

In May 2012 there will be a referendum to decide if the Mayoral system should be scraped, Mayor Davies and the EDP are totally against this, even though it was one of the main pledges in Mr Davies’s election manifesto!

County Councillor.

Deirdre Gates. Hertfordshire County Councillor.

Elected to the council in June 2009 as a BNP councillor she defected to the EDP in July 2011. She was one of a sizable number of BNP members in Hertfordshire that left the BNP and joined the EDP. Her division is up for election in 2013.

District level councillors.

Stephen Goldspink, Peterborough City Councillor.

Elected to the council in May 2008 as a Conservative councillor he was one of two Tories who defected to the EDP in October 2009. (The other one failed to hold his seat in 2011.) Cllr Goldspink’s seat is up for election in May 2012 but he has already announced that he will not be defending it.

Elliot Fountain, Boston Borough Councillor.

Elected to the council in May 2011 he was one of only two councillors that the EDP have had elected at this level. His seat is up for election in May 2015.

David Owen, Boston Borough Councillor.

First elected as a BNP councillor at a by-election in November 2008 he defected to the EDP in March 2010. He defended his seat in May 2011 being the only defector to the EDP ever to successfully hold their seat. His seat is up for election in May 2015.

Seamus Dunne, Three Rivers District Councillor.

Elected as a BNP councillor in May 2008 (Then known as Padraic Dunne) he defected to the EDP in June 2011, one of a number of Hertfordshire BNP members to do so. His seat is up for election in May 2012.

Parish Councillors.

The EDP also has at least three members on Parish councils,

Two in Hertfordshire.

One in Lancashire.

All elected in May 2011.

Two of the above are ex BNP. There may be other EDP members on Parish councils but, as with most of the ones listed, no party name was used in the Parish elections.

Elected representatives of English Nationalist Parties! (Part 2)

ONE ENGLAND

One Parish councillor in Staffordshire.

Elected in May 2011.

As far as can be ascertained the EDP and One England are the only English nationalist parties to have elected representatives! All of the Parish councillors, for both parties, are due to serve until May 2015.

 

ONE ENGLAND (21/01/12)

It would seem that the main website for ONE ENGLAND is no longer operating; the West Midlands site is still operational but is not regularly updated.

From what has been written elsewhere England Watch understands that there is a possibility of changes happening regarding One England!

English Nationalists & Scottish Nationalists!

English Nationalists & Scottish Nationalists

What attitude should English nationalists take towards Scottish nationalists seeking independence?

A question that will be increasingly asked over the coming two years! The answer will depend on whether the English national in question is for independence or federalism. If they are a loyal party member it may depend upon the stance taken by the party.

England First Party.

“The formation of an independent England, with an English Parliament, in a federal British Isles.”

English Democrat’s Party.

The EDP is in favour of an “the creation of an English Parliament, Executive and First Minister with at least the same powers as the Scottish Parliament, Executive and First Minister within a federal UK”.

English People’s Party.

“We call for the setting-up of an English Parliament, which will have at least the same powers as the Scottish Parliament.  We call for the creation of a federal UK.”

For England Party.

“We recognise the United Kingdom as the state but we demand England is seen a sovereign state in her own right.”

One England.

“One England would establish a parliament and government for England with an ambition to have full independence from the Union as soon as practicable”.

English nationalists must take whichever stance they think necessary, but in the view of England Watch, it would be folly for any party to make an enemy of the SNP, they have the same aim as us, the best for their country. Whatever happens England and Scotland will have to work together in the future and grudges carried forward will not help.

The SNP is in favour of independence, if that is the will of the Scottish people England Watch, along with most English nationalist would accept the democratic decision.

On the other hand the possible option known as ‘Devo-Max’ should, in the opinion of England Watch, be fought at all costs. If the UK government allowed this option to go onto the referendum paper then it should be offered to all four UK nations, if it is allowed to go ahead it could be VERY detrimental to the taxpayers of England. Scotland would be able to apply pressure on the UK government via both the Scottish Assembly and the Scottish MPs at Westminster.

If Scotland votes for independence and there is nothing in place by way of a Parliament for England when this happens, then England will be in the unenviable position of being in a rump-union with Wales and Northern Ireland, both of which have National Assemblies as well as MPs at Westminster. They are also the weakest economies of the four and may well place an even greater strain on the English taxpayer!

Mr Uncles tells 99% that they are ‘anti-English’!

England Watch’s attention has been drawn to the latest of Steve Uncles ‘articles’ on his English Passport site.

“In England to support any other political party than the English Democrats, is Anti-English”

 – Steve Uncles – January 2012

Now such a statement, apart from being arrogant nonsense, is patently untrue. There are many good, decent, dedicated English nationalists who have never been members of the EDP! There are also a growing number of truly hard working English nationalists who have left the EDP due to its drift towards British nationalism.

Some members of the EDP National Council are beginning to worry that in this years local elections in May over half of the EDP candidates will be people who were BNP members this time last year.

At the EDP National Council meeting in November 2011 concern was voiced that at the number of resignations of EDP members that cited the association with ex-BNP members and the number of them that are being allowed to join the EDP.

Returning to Mr Uncles flawed statement, he has made the same claim on previous occasions, it seems to be a ‘stock’ line when he has little else to say.  In a way it is a pity for the EDP that he has so much to say. There are hardworking branches and members still active in the EDP, just a few days ago Steve (EDP NW Chairman) & Val Morris were at the forefront of the campaign for a yes vote in the referendum on an Elected Mayor for Salford. One of the more noticeable things about the campaign was the fact that Mr Morris saw it as an advantage NOT to invite members of the EDP National council to help in the campaign.

A statement such as the one that Mr Uncles has posted is not worthy of any democratic party.  We have no doubt that it would have found support in parts of Europe in the 1930s & 40s. It would also not be out of place in modern-day Korea, Syria or Zimbabwe!

If you want to ensure that your party is a failure Mr Uncles just keep telling the 99% of the English people that do not support the EDP that they are unpatriotic and anti-English. Mr Uncles would be wise to listen to the EDP members that do something, not just those that talk about doing something!

E.D.P. The big kid on the block!

By far the largest English nationalist party is the English Democrats Party (EDP).

Founded in 1998 as the English National Party it changed its name in 2002. From its founding the Party Chairman has been Robin Tilbrook. It has never had an official Party Leader but most of the organising seems to be done by Steve Uncles.

The EDP is quite secretive about membership numbers, at the end of 2011 a figure of 3,500 was claimed but this was rubbished by a number of high profile members/ex-members who claimed that this included ‘almost everyone that had ever been a member’. The number of paid-up members was estimated to be around 700.

The basic unit of organisation for the EDP is based on the nine European Parliamentary Regions, for their own purposes the EDP have a split the South East Region to make a tenth region.

Membership of the EDP is not spread evenly across England; it is heavily concentrated in the south east and East Anglia. Regions such as the North East and West Midlands have VERY low numbers. The South West was, at one time, a good area for the EDP but large-scale resignations have resulted in there being very little support outside of Bristol.

In recent months there has been some increase in numbers in areas such as Leeds, Hertfordshire, Solihull, Southend, and Lincolnshire where, in some case, virtually whole branches of BNP members have resigned and then joined the EDP.

Elections!

The EDP place great importance on getting the maximum number of candidates standing at any election. They have been accused of quantity over quality, but numbers seem to matter.

The first time the party stood a candidate was May 2003, the first electoral success was 2009 when Peter Davies was elected as Mayor of Doncaster. The first two councillors to be elected at District level were in Boston, Lincs’ in 2011. One of them was defending a seat that he had won as a BNP candidate.

The EDP has had a few defections to them over the past few years but the one in Boston is the only councillor to have defended his seat successfully!

At present the EDP have

1 Elected Mayor.

1 County councillor.

4 District councillors.

4? Parish councillors.

Most of these will be ‘introduced’ in another item.

The smaller kids on the block!

All of the other English nationalist parties are small compared to the EDP. In alphabetical order those registered with England or English in the name are!

England First Party (EFP). Founded 2003. Leader Mark Cotterill.

Formed by former BNP members if had some initial success in Blackburn when two of its members, including the present Leader, were elected to the council, they both resigned within a year. It still stands candidates but to date no others have been elected.

English Independence Party  (EIP). Founded 2000. Leader Andrew Constantine. He replaced Tom Wyatt in January 2012.

This was the former vehicle of Chris Nickerson and as such was quite right-wing, supporting repatriation of immigrants. It was handed over to Andrew Constantine in early 2010 and in May of that year one of the members stood in both a Parliamentary and District election. He was unsuccessful in both! In mid 2011 the party, which by then was inactive, was ‘converted’ into the Campaign for English Independence, sadly, after much fanfare it died at birth!

Owned and now led by the Leader of the English People’s Party, at one point they were offering duel membership for the price of one! The registration is still valid and could be used in the future.

English National Party (ENP). Founded 2000. Leader Robert Williams.

Part of the English Democrats Party but the registration is still valid and could be used in the future.

English Parliamentary Party (EPP). Founded 2001. Leader Gerald Morgan.

The Leader is Dr Gerald Morgan and the registered address is The School of English, Trinity College, Dublin. No evidence of political activity has been forthcoming so this could just be an academic exercise.

English Peoples Party (EPP). Founded 2010, Leader Andrew Constantine.

Andrew Constantine is a well-known fixture in English Nationalist circles. He was a member of the EDP but left to co-found the Free England Party; after he closed the FEP he re-formed the EIP (see above).  In 2010 he formed the English Peoples Party, from information found on the ‘net it seems that the Free England Party was renamed and that is why the date registered is shown as 2008. The party had a candidate in the 2011 local elections and still seems to be active.

For England Party (FEP). Founded 2011. Leader Michael Johnson.

Founded in 2011 by Michael Johnson, one of the former ‘England First’ councillors. He came to the For England Party via ‘For Darwen’ and the EDP. Their website claims that they will be standing candidates at all levels in May 2012.

New England Party (NEP). Founded 2003. Leader Michael Tibby.

A Dartford based party, it had two councillors when it merged with the EDP in 2004, they were both lost in that year’s local elections. Now part of the English Democrats Party but the registration is still valid and could be used in the future.

One England (OE). Founded 2010. Leader John Botting.

A moderate party that initially proved attractive to members of the EDP fleeing the BNP influx into their party. One England gained a Parish Councillor in May 2011 but has failed to live up to its early promise. At present it seems to be the only English nationalist party, apart from the EDP, to have a councillor.

True English (Poetry) Party. (TEPP) Founded 2006. Leader Michael Gibson.

The name seems to say it all!

Truly Independent English Party (TIEP). Founded 2004. Leader Norman Hennings.

Apart from its registration their seems to be no other information available on this party.